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Manam Artwork - Bhavya Kumar |
Vibha Krishnakumar
A story of racism and casteism, a story of sorrow and hope, a story of freedom and peace. Manam is an album curated by musician Asha Ramesh and her son Rohith Jayaraman, keeping in mind a variety of societal cancers. A performing musician in the Bay Area and having sung for dance as well, Asha Ramesh is a much sought out teacher for vocal music. Her son, Rohith Jayaraman, a vocalist and composer, is a frequent collaborator with musicians from different cultures and countries. With haunting melodies and an inspirational story behind their album, Manam makes an impact on every listener. I personally was intrigued to hear ragas such as Sama being associated with casteism, and was very curious on the journey to create and release this album.
In an interview with Sruti, the multi-faceted mother-son duo based out of San Jose, California, talk about their inspiration, their creative process and their collaboration with artists from all around the globe for Manam during this pandemic.Â
What or who inspired you to curate your album, Manam?
Rohith: The seed for Manam was planted when George Floyd was murdered, and the whole world watched. Amma was shaken by this. She was unable to focus and teach for days afterward. For personal expression and processing more than anything else, she sat down and wrote a few lines of poetry in Tamil. She called me, to talk about what sheâd written. One of the lines struck a chord with me: Pirakkum podhu niram, jaadhi, madham thervu seiyvadhaar? (When we are born, who decides our color, caste, or religion?).
When my work shifted to a completely virtual setup because of the pandemic, I came to my parentsâ house, where Amma and I spent almost every evening writing and composing. There was never a plan to create an album or even release any of this music. It was a personal project. It was Ammaâs and my desire to have more contemporary, original, and secular Carnatic music in the repertoire. A few months later, when there were four complete songs inspired by these social issues, we realised that we had an album on our hands. It was a full year to finish - Amma wrote the first words on 3 June, 2020, and the album released exactly a year later on 4 June 4 2021.
Has the fact that the two of you are a mother - son duo altered the process of this collaboration?
Asha: For me it was quite new and I learned a lot. Rohith and I had only sung together as teacher and student, or as individual singers. We had never collaborated as partners. It was very important that we both saw each other as individuals and musicians, rather than as teacher and student. Otherwise, it may have been more difficult to express thoughts and opinions, give feedback, and work harmoniously.Â
Rohith: This album has been a bit of a home coming for me, both literally and figuratively. Getting to work with Amma in a collaborative way has been incredible. It felt like a big point of validation for me. Luckily, our family has never been a traditional parent-child or teacher-student power dynamic. That allowed us to approach this album with a truly collaborative spirit.Â
- How did you go about converting your script to music? And why were a few tuned, while one remained in prose?
 Rohith: The writing process itself was very interesting. Amma wrote the tillana and Saloni on her own, but for the others, we had much more back and forth. For example, with Vidudhalai, after she had written the opening lines, I wrote the rest of it in English first. Then, we sat together every night for several weeks and re-wrote each line in Tamil.
Asha: Rohith and I had thought of splitting our piece Vidudhalai into two interludes, but my husband Ramesh suggested that we keep it as one message. We kept the lyrical content minimal and focused on improvisation because this song, in some ways, is about thoughts developing.Â
Rohith: With Vidudhalai it was most important for us to complete the lyrics first. The song wasnât written with any melody, raga, or tala in mind. In fact, after we finished writing, we had a big struggle choosing the tala. We tried Adi (both chatusram and tisram), Roopakam, and even Khanda Chapu before we settled on Misra Chapu. Right off the bat, it felt like it needed to be a ragamalika because each verse elicited such different feelings.Both Amma and I connected to the lyrics and music differently. So it felt right to have two different versions: one where Amma rendered it in a purely Carnatic context with a violin and mridangam; and one where I called upon a frequent collaborator Aleif Hamdan, to arrange the piece in a more contemporary style which reflects the kind of music I make.
Asha: I had already written the tillana when we began work on Manam. When Rohith came back home we finished the composition and took it as a chance to play around a little bit with the rhythmic structure andkanakku. I finished Saloni in a single afternoon and when I read it to Rohith, I told him it didnât feel right to set to a melody and that it should be recited.
Rohith: I suggested that we try to find five different women from different stages of life to recite the different couplets of Saloni. We asked Kolkata-born producer, sound designer, and vocalist Vasundhara Gupta to produce this piece. It gave us an opportunity to explore new avenues - we had never explored the spoken word space before. It was a big learning experience for us.
How did you associate the chosen ragas Sama, Nata with societal imperfections?Â
Asha: This is an interesting question! For Vetri Nadai, Kalyani felt the most open, expressive, and relatable. With the improvisation in the song, we hoped people would connect with it more easily. Kalyani is very simple, but also has a lot of depth, and it felt most apt for this song.
Rohith: For Vidudhalai, we chose the ragas very carefully. Kapi managed to reflect shades of both light and dark, while also capturing that curiosity we wanted for the opening verse. It allows one to feel moments of hope and sadness at once.
Asha: I suggested Sama immediately when we were composing because of the word shyaam, which means dark or dusky. The wordplay with the name of the raga worked nicely with the theme of the verse: niram (skin color).
Rohith: Keeravani was the last option we settled on for the jaadi (caste) verse. We tried so many different ragas, and even got through almost half of the verse in Kharaharapriya. When we sang the first couple lines to my father, he said he wasnât hearing the same intensity in the melody that he felt in the lyrics. After lots of trial and error, we discovered the melody of the first line in Keeravani and it just clicked.
Asha: Pantuvarali is dark, but very spirited. And we wanted to have a raga that felt very Carnatic, but could draw a little inspiration from Hindustani music as well, borrowing some phrases from Puriya Dhanashree. Panthuvaralli was the first prati madhyama ragam we used in the album, and this allowed the song to have a sort of a climax.
Rohith: It was also a bit of a reflection of the core of the verse. Pantuvarali has this beautiful, dynamic, full-spirited shape, but also an underlying darkness. Religion has often been distorted in the same way - itâs meant to inspire morality, love, compassion, and yet there are those who twist its message to serve their own violent and malicious personal intent. Desh was the clear choice to end the piece because not only did it bring feelings of patriotism, freedom and nostalgia but it was also more hopeful and uplifting.
Asha: With the tillana, choosing Nata was less about the social concept and more about the music itself. Itâs a raga that is always relegated to the beginning of every concert or musical production. It is almost never used in the middle or end of a traditional concert. I have always wanted to compose a tillana in this raga, and the response has been great.
How was collaborating with artists from different countries? Were there any difficulties in doing so?
Rohith: The process of putting this album together was full of joy and frustration. Musicians in a room playing together and feeding off one another is how the recording process is usually done. But, because of the pandemic, almost everyone had to record individually in their rooms. Itâs difficult to capture the unified and coordinated energy when each musician is isolated, with no context from their fellow players. Nothing will be the same as playing live in a room together, but weâre truly proud of what weâve been able to do over Zoom and on WhatsApp calls.
Despite the struggle of recording virtually, one thing came out of this pandemic production - we were not at the mercy of geography. I wouldnât have been able to have artists like Layth Sidiq (who is based out of Spain) on the album if it was being recorded live. The same goes for the incredible Carnatic artists who graciously agreed to play on this album: Praveen Sparsh, Apoorva Krishna, N. Guruprasad Anna, Mylai Karthikeyan and many more. So, in some ways, this has been the opportunity of a lifetime to work with some of our favorite musicians. It was a mammoth undertaking and Iâm so glad we were able to pull it off.
There has been overwhelming support from eminent artists regarding your newest album. How does that feel?
Asha: Seeing and hearing the response has been very overwhelming. Family, friends, strangers, and stalwarts have responded so positively. I was especially happy to hear from Anita Ratnam Akka, who was so enthusiastic about the themes and the music. She felt so inspired and told me that she wants to choreograph based on the music, and even recorded a beautiful message for us about her thoughts on the album.
Rohith: For me, the biggest honor is that I got the chance to share this music with artists who I look up to. Getting feedback from an artist like T.M. Krishna was really special. Krishna Anna listened to the album with so much care and attention, and connected with both the music and the lyrics. And weâve gotten such encouraging and thoughtful feedback from artists like Shankar Mahadevan, John McLaughlin, Chandana Bala Kalyan, Shubha Mudgal, and Viveick Rajagopalan, to name a few. We always try to stay true to the music and not to seek external validation, but after the music is finished and when artists we admire respond positively, it really feels good and feels like we did something right.
Are there any future plans for collaboration between the two of you?
Asha: This has been such a wonderful experience for both of us. We donât have any plans as of yet for a new project. In fact, there are still many things left for Manam! In the next few months, we will be releasing more videos for songs from Manam.
Rohith: Working with Amma has been such a blast! Nothing concrete is in the pipeline for now, but I think we will always continue to write together.There is definitely much more art to be made and I think itâs safe to say that we will make many more things together.